Comments on: A Beer with the President http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/a-beer-with-the-president Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:37:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Roberta Woerner http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/a-beer-with-the-president/comment-page-1#comment-570 Roberta Woerner Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:34:47 +0000 http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/a-beer-with-the-president#comment-570 Mayhaps as each of us realizes that we ARE our brothers/sisters NOT their keepers, we will recognize the 'cosmic joke' of DIFFERENCES = color gender generation religion etc = "DRAMA" .which 'plays' like repeated re-runs of a 'popular program' that had FAULTy mis-information and canned applause !! Also, if this country believes that Seniority brings Wisdom, then why put the 'old folks'into someone else's'Homes'? Only old politicians are wise? Mayhaps as each of us realizes that we ARE our brothers/sisters NOT their keepers, we will recognize the ‘cosmic joke’ of DIFFERENCES = color gender generation religion etc = “DRAMA” .which ‘plays’ like repeated re-runs of a ‘popular program’ that had FAULTy mis-information and canned applause !! Also, if this country believes that Seniority brings Wisdom, then why put the ‘old folks’into someone else’s'Homes’? Only old politicians are wise?

]]> By: Douglas Chalmers http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/a-beer-with-the-president/comment-page-1#comment-569 Douglas Chalmers Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:55:32 +0000 http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/a-beer-with-the-president#comment-569 Firstly, the professor might not have been "mistaken for a burglar" but the police could have been intentionally misinformed. Thus the race question arises before the police blundered onto the scene. That takes us back to the pre-election atmosphere in which Democrats divided themselves into Obamaphiles + Clintonites, most probably on sexist lines as much as anything else. But the result was that the conservative mainstream were forgotten in the headlong rush for "change". Americans are now being dragged back to the reality of a disgruntled white population still not quite comfortable with the speed at which they have had to adapt to the new multi-cultural/multi-ethnic reality. It is now being made everybody's problem - as it inevitably must as we are all "our brother's keeper". Thus changing suddenly instead of gradually disenfranchised a significant proportion of the population + there is inevitable blowback at a later stage. That is where America is at now + this is the result of the Democrats running their two main candidates for president against each other right to the end. The result was that an odious divide was created on the grounds of sex + race but with no respect for seniority. Thus the older female was forced to accede to a very secondary position in a rank popularity contest + $$millions were wasted in the process. Clinton represented the older voter + many women + ethnic minorities. She could have appealed to the conservatives more successfully on both sides. Obama had the popularity but obviously not the broad depth of respect in the wider community. That has now shown up as a serious flaw in race relations. The challenge for Obama is to achieve that but it is being done from a back-to-front position as he is effectively the junior of the two. Having an older white man as vice-president hasn't helped that much. Then again, perhaps this is Biden's chance to do some good as regards "a teachable moment"? Firstly, the professor might not have been “mistaken for a burglar” but the police could have been intentionally misinformed. Thus the race question arises before the police blundered onto the scene.

That takes us back to the pre-election atmosphere in which Democrats divided themselves into Obamaphiles + Clintonites, most probably on sexist lines as much as anything else. But the result was that the conservative mainstream were forgotten in the headlong rush for “change”.

Americans are now being dragged back to the reality of a disgruntled white population still not quite comfortable with the speed at which they have had to adapt to the new multi-cultural/multi-ethnic reality. It is now being made everybody’s problem – as it inevitably must as we are all “our brother’s keeper”.

Thus changing suddenly instead of gradually disenfranchised a significant proportion of the population + there is inevitable blowback at a later stage. That is where America is at now + this is the result of the Democrats running their two main candidates for president against each other right to the end.

The result was that an odious divide was created on the grounds of sex + race but with no respect for seniority. Thus the older female was forced to accede to a very secondary position in a rank popularity contest + $$millions were wasted in the process.

Clinton represented the older voter + many women + ethnic minorities. She could have appealed to the conservatives more successfully on both sides. Obama had the popularity but obviously not the broad depth of respect in the wider community. That has now shown up as a serious flaw in race relations.

The challenge for Obama is to achieve that but it is being done from a back-to-front position as he is effectively the junior of the two. Having an older white man as vice-president hasn’t helped that much. Then again, perhaps this is Biden’s chance to do some good as regards “a teachable moment”?

]]> By: P.D. Wills http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/a-beer-with-the-president/comment-page-1#comment-567 P.D. Wills Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:58:53 +0000 http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/a-beer-with-the-president#comment-567 Hi, Mary, I did see the press conference and thought the President was articulate, as usual, though more tell than show. Some commentators later described him as being in 'campaign mode', the familiar territory of Sagittarius-Jupiter emphasis where selling ideas/beliefs is the name of the game. And, as you point out, the eclipse fell on Obama's natal Mercury-Jupiter opposition in 6-12, a strong astrological reflection signaling communication-health-improvement. His rogue - unguarded - comment was such a surprise! I think he is usually such a remarkably thoughtful (and careful) public speaker...bet he can't believe he said such a thing either. We've seen that the eclipse contacted N Jupiter which rules Obama's 11th House, the house of friends. So, perhaps the eclipse boost coupled with T Mars - close to his Gemini Moon in his personal 4th - triggered his rush to defend Gates, a friend. And now, on to (liquid) damage control...in the form of a 'teachable moment' (appreciated your Aquarian acknowledgement!). Hi, Mary, I did see the press conference and thought the President was articulate, as usual, though more tell than show. Some commentators later described him as being in ‘campaign mode’, the familiar territory of Sagittarius-Jupiter emphasis where selling ideas/beliefs is the name of the game. And, as you point out, the eclipse fell on Obama’s natal Mercury-Jupiter opposition in 6-12, a strong astrological reflection signaling communication-health-improvement.

His rogue – unguarded – comment was such a surprise! I think he is usually such a remarkably thoughtful (and careful) public speaker…bet he can’t believe he said such a thing either. We’ve seen that the eclipse contacted N Jupiter which rules Obama’s 11th House, the house of friends. So, perhaps the eclipse boost coupled with T Mars – close to his Gemini Moon in his personal 4th – triggered his rush to defend Gates, a friend.

And now, on to (liquid) damage control…in the form of a ‘teachable moment’ (appreciated your Aquarian acknowledgement!).

]]> By: Ray Grasse http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/a-beer-with-the-president/comment-page-1#comment-560 Ray Grasse Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:13:59 +0000 http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/a-beer-with-the-president#comment-560 Very good, Mary! I knew there must be some astro-significator responsible for this... Very good, Mary! I knew there must be some astro-significator responsible for this…

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